User talk:IngerAlHaosului

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Contents 1 Welcome 2 Flag images 3 Infoboxes 4 Moving a page 5 .hack pages 6 Tips 7 SWF

[edit] Welcome

Feel free to talk to me on any subject, however insults and vandalism WILL BE REVERTED!!!

Thanks for your contributions, I've moved Vampire Princess Miyu to Vampire Princess Miyu/Vampire Princess Miyu to fit in with our name scheme. Additionally could you please look over this edit I made to the article to see the formatting issues that I fixed. The template pages have documentation that can be helpful for you. ~NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) ^(talk) Apr 9, 2008 _@ 19:01 ^(UTC)

Well you can find information on the prefix system at ACG Worlds. The first thing to remember is that the Animepedia and Wikia ACG are not part of Wikipedia, so there's no reason that ideals need to match up. In that context you are mentioning I believe it is referring to a different kind of use of subpages. Here the point of subpages is an attempt at creating a Mini wiki style setup. Wikipedia is cluttered with Disambiguation pages and that is something we want to avoid. We'd especially have a large number of those because of giving each and every character their own name. Also remember Wikipedia doesn't even make use of Semantic MediaWiki which leads to a whole different level of use. And unlike there we can get special extensions installed that will make editing and viewing of things better. Namely that subpage structure is actually going to be made more like a Mini wiki when I finish a custom extension. Namely pages like Vampire Princess Miyu/Vampire Princess Miyu would have their title show up like "Vampire Princess Miyu > Vampire Princess Miyu" creating a sort of directory like setup. ~NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) ^(talk) Apr 9, 2008 _@ 19:49 ^(UTC)

Thanks for fixing up some of those redirects. Though, could you use Project: instead of Animepedia:. The former is an alias which is better to use because it won't break if the namespace is ever renamed. ~NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) ^(talk) Apr 18, 2008 _@ 06:35 ^(UTC)

[edit] Flag images

Hey, since you're uploading flag images. Do you feel like having me give you a few tips on how to clean up the image pages. Then tag them for Syncing? I should probably update my TagSync bot to do images instead of using the old ImageMirror bot. But it could potentially get flag images to finally be synced to all Wikia ACG wiki. ~NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) ^(talk) Apr 23, 2008 _@ 05:29 ^(UTC)

[edit] Infoboxes

Wikia ACG doesn't really do Novels. ACG is mainly about the Anime, Manga, and a light bit of the games. When a series has a large section of other media it's best to create a dedicated wiki for that series. We normally exclude the Novels from the infoboxes. However, you could use the Other box to create a Related media box and link to a Wikipedia article about the Novels.

The Anime voices template Wikipedia has is meant for use in long character lists. We've don't do character lists, we give each character their own page, so an Anime voices template is effectively useless. Rather we split the lists into individual articles about each character, and then use the Character Infobox with the {{Infobox/Character/Voice}} sub box. ~NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) ^(talk) Apr 24, 2008 _@ 22:27 ^(UTC)

Oh, about episode pages. We actually use the title of the episode as the page title (with the prefix of course) and then redirect the Episode ## there.

^_^ And something that should be useful for you. When you want to link to a page in the same World, like from a Hack/ page to another Hack/ page, you don't need to use the prefix. Instead you can just put ../ at the start of the link. In fact, if you add a / to the end also it will hide the ../ from the start.

Take a look: http://anime.wikia.com/index.php?title=Hack%2F.hack%2F%2FLegend_of_the_Twilight&diff=11950&oldid=11937

~NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) ^(talk) Apr 25, 2008 _@ 21:35 ^(UTC)

Probably two reasons. The // was messing up the system, and it takes a bit of time before things travel around the site and things like that show up. I've tweaked the category to use .hack instead of trying to autodetect, so once the job que gets around it should be fixed.

And "Episode 01" would be changed to "The Fang Knows!". You can just use the move button, MediaWiki will automatically create the redirect for you. Don't worry about links and stuff, once things get setup I'll have an EpisodeNav box which will use SMW to find the next and prev episodes. ~NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) ^(talk) Apr 26, 2008 _@ 07:53 ^(UTC)

Yup, that's what I mean. ~NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) ^(talk) Apr 26, 2008 _@ 16:41 ^(UTC)

[edit] Moving a page

IngerAlHaosului, that Internal server error is not a bug. It's MediaWiki's rate limiter. Normal users can only move 2 pages at a time and then have to wait a little bit. It's there to prevent large scale movepage vandalism. ~NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) ^(talk) May 1, 2008 _@ 19:58 ^(UTC)

I honestly don't know. However, as I have a sysop flag I am not affected by it. And I have a bot with a bot flag on it which is not affected either. If you want to move a large number of pages, I'd be happy to do it for you, or have a bot batch move them. ~NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) ^(talk) May 2, 2008 _@ 20:53 ^(UTC)

[edit] .hack pages

Ok, I think I fixed it for now. The issue was how {{BASEPAGENAME}} was working. I switched the code to use the #titleparts ParserFunction for now. I was actually planning on creating a {{WORLDPAGENAME}} Magic Word when I created the ACG Network extension anyways. The use of BASEPAGENAME was supposed to be just a temporary thing for making things sorta work right now while waiting for me to make the extension. Just wait for the job que to go through. ~NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) ^(talk) May 3, 2008 _@ 11:06 ^(UTC)

[edit] Tips

Let's see...

• The Dothack wiki is a Wikia wiki, so we can interwiki link to it with [[w:c:dothack:PAGENAME|LINK TEXT]], much cleaner than a url.
• While nonexistant, the Anime names templates that Wikipedia has do serve a purpose. When you split the character list out into individual articles they contain data good for the infobox.
• Don't directly use the prefix to refer to another page in the same world. Use ../ so from inside of the Hack world use ../ instead of Hack/, it's far more portable and does not break if we move world names.
• For the different voice actors we use the {{Voice actors}} template, it serves as a future method of tagging the actors with links to their pages.

~NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) ^(talk) May 13, 2008 _@ 07:22 ^(UTC)

1. Instead of using a long URL to say, http://dothack.wikia.com/wiki/.hack//Legend of the Twilight you can simply use w:c:dothack:.hack//Legend of the Twilight.
2. Hmmm... I see, that damn parent page issue.
3. A correct image name includes the world that the series belongs to. So when you upload an image for hack, it's good to perpend "Hack-" to the start of the image title. As for those, you can re-upload them if you want. I'm honestly waiting for something, one of these days in the distant future MediaWiki is supposed to finally have support for moving images. You can also take a look at w:c:naruto:Forum:Fair use tagging tips... for some tips for how to do a Fair use rationale.
4. anime voices and Voice actors have two different purposes, and accept two different types of inputs. The purpose of Voice actors is to link a name if it exists, and additionally you should notice that the first input is actually a 2 letter ISO code for language. This is because the template puts names inside of a span tag annotated with the lang attribute. This is useful for Japanese names as it can fix some Japanese words which may occasionally display wrong when in English mode.

~NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) ^(talk) May 14, 2008 _@ 07:26 ^(UTC)

Neither, Wikipedia's anime voices template is not useful here. It is used for character lists, and we don't do character lists. If you see a character list it is a unformatted remnant of data which is supposed to be migrated into individual pages.

So when you see {{Anime voices}} in a page, that's not a que that we're missing a template, or that it needs to be removed. It's a que that there is data useful inside that spot, and what we want is that character to be split into their own article, then given an infobox where the information about voices listed there can be put. ~NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) ^(talk) May 15, 2008 _@ 06:05 ^(UTC)

That's going to be done automatically. The Character infoboxes add data which will be used to automatically populate character lists for us. I'll try and build one right now to show you. Don't use it though, I want to build templates to simplify this kind of thing. ~NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) ^(talk) May 15, 2008 _@ 12:03 ^(UTC)

Hmmm... It's probably going to take a bit more work and integration into an extension for it to work I guess. But yes, simple series will have a /Characters page and I've linked to pages like Hack/.hack//Roots characters, and those will be autogenerated lists of the characters in the series. ~NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) ^(talk) May 15, 2008 _@ 12:11 ^(UTC)

^_^ I've simplified some of the linking issues for you. Instead of using {{Main}} to add a note with the main page for a section which is actually a sibling page. So instead of {{Main|../Characters/}} you only need {{MainS|Characters}}, and since it uses a new {{ROOTPAGENAME}} template I drafted up it won't have issues with those .hack pages. ~NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) ^(talk) May 15, 2008 _@ 12:29 ^(UTC)

Yes, that's the general idea. We have an individual article for each series, and individual article for each character, an individual article for special skills and objects (Like devices in Nanoha, or ARMs in Mar), and a individual article for each Episode. And then we have the /Episodes, /Characters, etc... Pages which are automatically generated lists of those things. And nicely enough, Episodes are going to have plenty of semantic data applied to them, so we can nicely make the /Episodes pages output the various forms of titles for the episodes, filter by series, output episode number and even sort by that episode number. ~NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) ^(talk) May 16, 2008 _@ 08:35 ^(UTC)

MainS is used similarly to Main, cept you don't use the ../ or Hack/. Take a look here. ~NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) ^(talk) May 16, 2008 _@ 10:28 ^(UTC)

I dunno, I honestly have a strong dislike of adding anything that's temporary and manual. Take a look at List of Anime. It's a huge list, that entire thing is supposed to be temporary and manual up until we have a fair amount of series listed here and switching to an autogenerated list won't end up truncating that to a extremely small one. I have a feeling that a manual version of Episodes would end up a lot like that. Though, there is merit to copying a Characters section to a /Characters page, and then turning sections into links as you move sections into individual articles. Though, btw... The Episodes, Characters, and Series all have automatic categories which already do list them that you could point to. Perhaps just redirect something like Hack/Characters to Category:.hack characters. ~NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) ^(talk) May 16, 2008 _@ 18:13 ^(UTC)

[edit] SWF

No, there is no real support in MediaWiki for SWF files. It's not even on the whitelist so you won't be able to upload one. Why do you need to put a SWF in an article? There may be a better method, or it might not be necessary. ~NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) ^(talk) May 23, 2008 _@ 14:40 ^(UTC)

Oh, that's interesting. Actually there are no video formats supported. However, Wikia does have a YouTube plugin installed. So it would be possible to upload a video to YouTube and embed it with the <youtube>id</youtube> tags, and you could even stick that into a template you could just put on peoples pages to give them information. ~NOTASTAFF Daniel Friesen (DanTMan, Nadir Seen Fire) ^(talk) May 23, 2008 _@ 15:34 ^(UTC)